Firefly Secret Mixter Remixes!
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Reviews for "war and art and love"

war and art and love
by oldDog
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Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 6:53 AM

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SackJo22
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permalink   Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 7:29 AM
Sometimes, it is just about the song. What a tender treatment of a deceptively simple song. The pipes, the harmonies, the most tasteful embelleshments to a vocal/piano performance that needed little to improve it. Thank you so much for such a lovely listen.
colab
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permalink   Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 8:34 AM
Lovely track.

I like that you used the bagpipe - I’m a fan of the concept - but don’t think they fit the melody here.

Aside from that nag, this is a very beautiful piece. Very tasteful backing to a lovely vocal performance.
 
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permalink   oldDog Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 9:30 AM
I know what you mean about the bagpipes, but I quite like those clashes. More like something going on in the background, rather than a part of the harmony. Wasn’t sure about it tho, so it’ll be interesting to see if other people feel the same as you!

Anyway, thanks for listening and commenting.
 
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permalink   oldDog Tue, May 5, 2009 @ 4:37 AM
See what you unleashed!

Thanks again, and hope you like the new version.
 
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permalink   colab Tue, May 5, 2009 @ 7:27 AM
Quote: oldDogSee what you unleashed!

Thanks again, and hope you like the new version.

I think you got so much feedback from so many people because it really spoke to so many.

And now I feel like you custom-made a version just for me - so I’m a very happy guy. :)

Love it.
 
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permalink   Loveshadow Thu, May 7, 2009 @ 2:13 AM
tch thats war and art and love for ya..
Subliminal
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permalink   Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 10:17 AM
Simply beautiful. I believe I understand what you are trying to achieve with those bagpipes. And to a certain degree it works. But it wouldn’t exactly be a lesser effort if you hadn’t used them.
Anchor
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permalink   Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 12:12 PM
What Bagpipes? (just kidding) -
Beautiful work Old D. - and Cig’s vocals are clean and pure too… Panu can really pen a lyric, can’t he?
As for the pipes - to me they added an element of dreamlike theatricality…bagpipes always create an atmosphere of pathos and longing.
Loveshadow
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permalink   Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 12:23 PM
This is a superb piece of work guys.

The pipes threw me a bit as this is such a personal space and it distracted me.

I also would not have double tracked Ciggi either in the second part but thats just my call on it.

I have never wanted to sing something so badly as this, its not in my key but if i could pretty please ask for the backing.

Stunning composition on all levels
JamesMusic
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permalink   Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 12:46 PM
Wow, this is great, Perfect accompiament to the vocal!
Scomber
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permalink   Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 1:38 PM
Very nice guys, Panu’s a machine and you both do his ideas justice.
I agree with LS about the double on the chorus - might have been better with oD doing the harmony - the bagpipes are a nice touch. MORE BAGPIPES
 
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permalink   oldDog Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 1:56 PM
Thanks Scomber.

I’m thinking of turning this into an interactive piece: press the red button for no bagpipes, yellow for no doubling. And tartan for MORE BAGPIPES.
panu
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permalink   Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 4:12 PM
in my short time on ccM i’ve learned that turning a song idea over to seasoned pros will yield a more perfect, simple, & beautiful presentation times ten than could ever be done from here.

this is absolutely beautiful, thank you both! p
radiotimes
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permalink   Mon, May 4, 2009 @ 4:59 PM
Great lyrics, great backing track and a beautiful delivery by Ciggi.

Seems that sad songs still make people happy!

As to the bagpipes…well I think I can see what the intention was as the theme lends itself to some additional relevant sounds. Problem here is they need to be more traditional sounding with a bigger kilt maybe and more to the fore when they do come in. This is probably one of the biggest international conversations going on on the Net about bagpipes at the moment so if nothing else give yourself a pat on the back for that!

As to Ciggis vocal doubling yes I agree it would have been nicer to have had your vox instead.

So having ripped your mix apart let me just say bagpipes or no bagpipes, doubled vocals or not its still bloody great!!
 
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permalink   oldDog Tue, May 5, 2009 @ 4:34 AM
OK, many thanks to everyone for their input!
So here’s a new version. On the bagpipes the score seems to be 3 for, 3 against, and 3 sitting on the fence - so this version keeps them in, but more discreetly, and keeping out of the way of the vocals. By popular demand (both of them) OD appears on vocals instead of the doubling.
The committee meeting is now called to a close, unless there is any other business.
 
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permalink   SackJo22 Tue, May 5, 2009 @ 1:22 PM
Even more beautiful than before — thank you for a truly moving listen.
 
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permalink   radiotimes Tue, May 5, 2009 @ 6:29 PM
This new version is fantastic!!

For someone as experienced and talented as yourself to take on board our comments and have the humility to redo the mix is the sign of a great artist! Well done!
timberman
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permalink   Tue, May 5, 2009 @ 11:19 AM
Noooo..Here’s one more. Being a truly sentimental guy… what can I say that’s not been said already. So incredibly beautiful and emotional. Had to write this.
J.Lang
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permalink   Tue, May 5, 2009 @ 4:17 PM
Wow!!!!!!
Ciggi and Panu sound at home on this beautiful track. Your production and Piano playing blows me away. Added to my iPod and it’s on replay.
Very Well Done !!!!!!
100% on point
 
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permalink   oldDog Wed, May 6, 2009 @ 3:40 AM
Thanks JL, your feedback is always very much appreciated.

(By the way, that’s me on backing vocals - Panu’s contribution was “just” writing the song!)
spinmeister
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permalink   Wed, May 6, 2009 @ 11:39 AM
In your illustrious musical career, have you ever undertaken a musical theatre project? If yes, sorry and duh!

If not, …
 
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permalink   oldDog Thu, May 7, 2009 @ 8:10 AM
Quote: spinmeisterIn your illustrious musical career, have you ever undertaken a musical theatre project? If yes, sorry and duh!

If not, …


Yes, I’ve done some music for plays - and a small musical (- but don’t apologize!) I’ve always liked working in the atmosphere of a theatre - perhaps because my mother was an actress and I remember the excitement of going backstage as a kid.
 
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permalink   spinmeister Thu, May 7, 2009 @ 9:43 AM
Well, color me only surprised, that you haven’t done more of that. Some of your remixes here (including this one of course) would be outstanding pieces for musical theatre / musicals.
 
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permalink   CiggiBurns Sat, May 9, 2009 @ 9:26 AM
This new avatar thing is cool but I rather liked the picture of you. Oh well, you can’t please everyone all of the time. x
 
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permalink   spinmeister Sat, May 9, 2009 @ 9:15 PM
sorry :-(
MC Jack in the Box
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permalink   Wed, May 6, 2009 @ 12:33 PM
beautiful! not much more to say. :)
Chuck Berglund
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permalink   Wed, May 6, 2009 @ 7:05 PM
Im Spellbound!..been busy and this really slowed me down..for a moment…this is beautiful..them bagpipes in this distance wow…Great Vocals also!…No this should make some airplay somewhere. I think that the war mongers have no art only strick rules and really they fight for their Freedom from opression i wish they would understand that. Captalism is not the answer either as people fight for their freedom from the dollar and the terrible work enviornments in americas companies dog eat dog. I will listen to this tonight again. A Download for the chill. Again Beautiful…Listen Up World if you have Ears and a Mind! To the Sound of Peace!…Bravo
aliteralmind
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permalink   Sat, May 9, 2009 @ 4:25 AM
This is just a beautiful piece.
Kaer Trouz
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permalink   Sat, May 9, 2009 @ 8:46 AM
Late to the party but this is profoundly good. Panu & Ciggi are great together and I love the simple piano changes, and then suddenly that one super complex chord towards the end of the phrase, which makes me realize how not simple it really is. A heartbreaking work… Congrats to all three of you. PS: I am totally on the fence side of bagpipes!!!!
AT
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permalink   Sat, May 9, 2009 @ 8:13 PM
another late arrival, but just wanted to show my appreciation for this wonderful track. outstanding, panu,ciggi and OD.
TheDICE
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permalink   Sun, Mar 18, 2012 @ 6:01 PM
Wow, really great track.
Everything is wonderful