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Sailboat feat. snowflake
by Attic Ella
Recommends (12)
Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 3:36 AM

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Doxent Zsigmond
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permalink   Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 3:45 AM
Great beat and concept.
(I’d just soften up beats a bit. There’s a freebie vst called Vinyl from iZotope that makes drum sound less harsh for the ear.)
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 4:13 AM
Lots still to learn! Yes I will look into this, thanks for the tip.
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 6:27 AM
I added vinyl to the drum bus like you said. The hats were eating up my bandwidth. Is it better now?
 
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permalink   Doxent Zsigmond Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 7:31 AM
much better.
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 11:27 AM
Thank you for the suggestion Doxent. Think I’ll be using Vinyl a lot. Was trying it in other mixes and I have use for it in more things than just the drums. I also automated a filter to make more room for the vocals as suggested by Quarkstar.
Scott Altham
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permalink   Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 7:33 AM
Hey, now this is a great mix.

There’s still room for some lower frequencies in the mix, but I’m really getting a sense of your style and I like it!

A good strong dance pop mix of this pella. I look forward to hearing more of your work.

Keep ‘em coming
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 11:17 AM
Scott, my room is a funny beast. The bass disappears where I sit and reappears with a vengeance just behind me. My bass is guesstimates and a third opinion is invaluable to me. Thank you!!!
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 11:34 AM
Oh also, I love dance music but would really like to graduate and create the more specialized styles as I find here in ccmixter. But, that’s what I am here for. To learn.
Snowflake
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permalink   Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 7:39 AM
aren’t i the luckiest gal today! so honored my vox can inspire you to create such well-crafted productions that pull me in from start to finish. your sounds, rhythm and dynamics are stellar in this track.
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 11:14 AM
The honor is all mine. I am speechless, I had no idea. To receive all those compliments from such talented artists here. I am so glad I decided to share. Thank you.
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 12:55 PM
Oh wow, I did not know you were ccMixter’s CEO! O.O
 
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permalink   Snowflake Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 8:35 PM
blush :)
Quarkstar
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permalink   Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 4:16 PM
Very clean sound with lots of subtle variation to keep it interesting.

Note lengths, filters, different instruments all add to the changes in intensity and dynamics throughout the track.

As Scott says a bit of sub-bass will add depth to the track. I use Operator (Sine wave, no FM) + Saturator + EQ Eight + Reverb.
I like the the sub-bass sound around G0 so you may need to choose between the I or V note depending on your key.
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Fri, Oct 3, 2014 @ 10:16 PM
Done, I think. Hope it’s better now. =)
 
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permalink   Quarkstar Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 1:21 AM
The sub-bass adds a lot of warmth and bottom to the mix. I liked the old instruments better. Great upbeat tune.
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 1:27 AM
Old instruments? Something sound different?
 
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permalink   Quarkstar Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 4:12 PM
As I remember it the tune started with the drums and a very quiet pad sound with a slow attack, which gave a nice lead into the track and build up.

I may be mistaken but I can’t remember the bell-like keys that now come in very early and take away the build up. The pad tone fittend nicely between the kicks and hi-hats and without it there is a gap in the fequencies.

The (bell-like) keys sit over the hihats and to my ears its a harsh dissonant sound. I think your first instincts were right, to keep a mid frequency at the start, maybe a bit louder, and to let the drums come through.

Anyway I wouldn’t touch it any more and try those things in a new tune.
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 5:19 PM
Oh yes, that is because I inadvertently started working on a previous version and didn’t notice. I’ll take note of your advice.
Loveshadow
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permalink   Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 3:50 AM
I like all your music. Sonically I wonder what you are monitoring or making this stuff on i.e speakers or headphones. To me it sounds like you are playing with the eq on the final mix rather than letting a few things be as a start.
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 5:59 AM
I am using speakers. KRK Rokit 6’s to be exact. My room is weird, lots of dips and pools. Not much I can do about it. Actually, my eq at the master track is minimal, just a 2db boost for the bass around 100-200sh, a cut around the middle, and a little boost for air below the top. Maybe I can do something different? Can you elaborate a little? I would truly appreciate it. Is it too harsh?
Zep Hurme
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permalink   Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 6:06 AM
Utterly fine piece! Love it how it slowly and constantly evolves. Yeah the guys are right here. It sounds much better now with modified low-end. Keep an eye on the 3-5kHz range also in the tracks. That’s where the harshness usually is lurking. ;)
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 9:49 AM
Thank you! I made use of your advice right away.

I toned down the harshness, is it better now?.

This style of music is supposed to sound compressed. I don’t want it to sound obviously compressed but if I don’t it loses power and it might as well be an acoustic piece and not a club track. Did I dial in an acceptable level of compression?
 
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permalink   Zep Hurme Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 11:09 AM
I’m not an EDM expert, but what I would do here is I’d pull down the hi-hats and use de-esser on vocals for starters, but it’s your track and you know how you’d like it to sound so forget what I’m writing here. ;)
 
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permalink   Quarkstar Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 4:18 PM
I think there is a lot of harshness in the reverb. Most reverbs have a low pass shelving filter to take that out.
In Ableton its in the Diffusion Network.
Also for EDM, set the Predelay so the milliseconds are based on the BPM. At 120BPM 125ms, 128BPM 118ms OR put a simple delay in front with channels linked and a delay time of 1/16 or 2/16 and set the reverb predelay as low as it will go. Using the second method it will be correct for the BPM. Doing that will make the reverb go along with the beat.
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Sat, Oct 4, 2014 @ 5:13 PM
Got ya, thank you so much!
SackJo22
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permalink   Sun, Oct 5, 2014 @ 11:54 AM
Another great track. Also, I really appreciate your openness. I have learned a lot about production from the comments that others have left for you! Your arrangements are wonderful. I look forward to hearing more from you!
 
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permalink   Attic Ella Sun, Oct 5, 2014 @ 12:16 PM
I always risk becoming a pest but different people have effective, tricks and philosophies no matter the style. Golden nuggets! I love those. Thank you for your comments SacJo22. Nice to meet you. =)