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Otherwise Silence
by debbizo
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Sun, Nov 21, 2010 @ 4:09 AM
 
Ivan Chew
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permalink   Sun, Nov 21, 2010 @ 5:40 AM
words fail me… but i’ll try: Deb, this is an awesome awesome awesome piece of writing. The pace, the visualisation… damn it. Words fail me. The ambient sound track accentuates the story. There’s even that “Inception” feel at the start. wow.

OK, here’s the technical review (which is to say it’s strictly my personal remixing preferences and something you can ignore): I’d love for the ambient track to build up in volume. Probably the crescendo at the part when the train is coming and the tracks are rumbling. And then cut and fade into a sense of normalcy. But anyway, this part of the comment in no way detracts what I’ve written earlier.
 
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permalink   debbizo Sun, Nov 21, 2010 @ 12:09 PM
Thank you Ivan. I’m glad you like it so much. I tried building the volume but I couldn’t seem to lift the voice up out of it. I might experiment with that idea some more.
 
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permalink   Abstract Audio Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 12:50 AM
Quote: debbizoI couldn’t seem to lift the voice up out of it.

Instead of lifting it up putting it down might work?
 
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permalink   debbizo Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 3:27 AM
Quote: Abstract AudioI couldn’t seem to lift the voice up out of it.

Instead of lifting it up putting it down might work?


Can you try listening to Amelia Walker’s audio poem ‘City, Lover, Self’ on my web page: http://www.debmatthewszott.... (about half way down the page) and let me know if this is what you mean when you suggest putting the voice down. In the middle of Amelia’s audio poem, the music almost completely drowns out her voice…there’s just a trace…and it seems to make a point about the self in the city.

Thanks,
Deb
 
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permalink   Abstract Audio Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 5:51 AM
Let me cut my answer in 2: artistic and technical

A: Yes that is the idea I had. But with that poem I would use your approach because I feel that the music gets in the way of the poem (because of the busy piano part).
Listening to otherwise silence again I feel that my “problem” is the room you placed the vocal in. It sounds like your in a little booth. Both the soundscapes on the other hand are placed in a larger space, like a hall or even outside. Plus the fact that your story takes place outside, well most of it then.
Here you can find a zip with 2 processed versions of your voice, 1 clean version and 1 wet version What I’ve done is some noise removal and I removed a lot of the lower frequencies to clean up your vocals. That also helped to give the vocal a bit wider feel. Then I put a Medium Hall reverb and some creative delay on it to give it some space.
Have fun with it!

T: Something proberbly allready know but nonetheless let me begin with it. When dealing with frequency or volume problems its allways beter to lower the parts that are to hard and raise the volume of the entire mix. Otherwise you get the problems you rever to.
In this case I think you could lower the volume of the voice proberbly by a 1/4 without losing it in the mix.

Well that ends my review hope it could help you. Remember it’s only a artistical advice on how should do it, right now its also a great work.

PS beautifull blogsite
 
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permalink   Ivan Chew Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 6:34 AM
I don’t know about Deb, but I found this advice immensely useful.
 
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permalink   Abstract Audio Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 12:09 PM
thanks thats nice to know
 
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permalink   debbizo Tue, Nov 23, 2010 @ 4:31 AM
Thanks again. I have uploaded 2 alternative mixes - one with reverb and one with a chorus effect on the vocal…and also a slight delay on both. I used the “without noise” file and fiddled with volume, panning and shifted the second train sound..as well as lengthened it. Let me know what you think - better? or worse?
 
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permalink   debbizo Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 11:54 AM
Thank you A.A.!
I will download the file after work tonight and come back to this advice. This is something I need to learn more about.
I did lower the pitch for this track, intentionally but will see what I can do after listening to your changes.
 
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permalink   Abstract Audio Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 12:08 PM
looking forward to it! If you need additional specific info on my changes drop me a mail.
 
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permalink   debbizo Tue, Nov 23, 2010 @ 4:30 AM
Thanks again. I have uploaded 2 alternative mixes - one with reverb and one with a chorus effect on the vocal…and also a slight delay on both. I used the “without noise” file and fiddled with volume, panning and shifted the second train sound..as well as lengthened it. Let me know what you think - better? or worse?
 
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permalink   Abstract Audio Tue, Nov 23, 2010 @ 9:20 AM
Yes I like them the chorus one the most. I like the train that is now running right by you, also the volume changes work nice. its funny that in your reverb version I don’t hear it (the reverb) but it doesn’t bother me.
 
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permalink   debbizo Wed, Nov 24, 2010 @ 3:19 AM
I’ve uploaded one more version which has both the “no noise” and “wet” samples you sent. And I panned one left / one right. It is the one labelled reverb and chorus.
Thanks again.
Admiral Bob
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permalink   Sun, Nov 21, 2010 @ 6:58 AM
As distant as the border between sea and sky, and as intimate as a tea room, all at once.
 
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permalink   debbizo Sun, Nov 21, 2010 @ 12:10 PM
Thank you for listening Admiral.
Speck
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permalink   Sun, Nov 21, 2010 @ 7:33 AM
A haunting sense of past time and place. Personal specifics evoking perhaps universally shared but shaded remembrances. Well done.
 
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permalink   debbizo Sun, Nov 21, 2010 @ 12:10 PM
Thank you Speck.
colab
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permalink   Sun, Nov 21, 2010 @ 8:18 AM
Speck said it very well. And I wouldn’t change anything about this track.
 
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permalink   debbizo Sun, Nov 21, 2010 @ 12:10 PM
Thanks M
Abstract Audio
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permalink   Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 12:58 AM
I always enjoy the calm in your voice and the soundscapes you create (or use). The first time I listen to a song I never pay attention to the meaning of words, its something I can’t do follow the the song, rythm of the voice and the meaning. But then I read your words and they are beautifull.


Just like Ivan Chew I feel like the soundscape should build up in volume.
 
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permalink   debbizo Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 3:23 AM
Thank you A.A. I might have a go at an alternative mix on the weekend and try building the volume.
SackJo22
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permalink   Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 7:30 PM
Sobering and deep.
 
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permalink   debbizo Tue, Nov 23, 2010 @ 4:31 AM
Thanks for listening Susan
texasradiofish
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permalink   Mon, Nov 22, 2010 @ 9:26 PM
lots of images, deb. the b/t works fine.
 
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permalink   debbizo Tue, Nov 23, 2010 @ 4:32 AM
Thank you
gurdonark
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permalink   Tue, Nov 23, 2010 @ 4:52 PM
I like the way that you use the music to background the poetry, not as some artificial device but as a way to create ideas and atmosphere.
 
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permalink   debbizo Wed, Nov 24, 2010 @ 3:17 AM
Thanks Gurdonark. I’m glad you appreciate what I was trying to do.