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InSpaRation
by mmurray47
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Sat, Feb 5, 2005 @ 5:15 PM

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indieish.com
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permalink   Sat, Feb 5, 2005 @ 12:53 PM
Quote: This might be cool if smooth jazz was cool.

Apparently, if future boy has his way, there will be no smooth jazz in the future.

I’ve got to say I kinda dig this. It’s definately got potential, and better sound fonts would help greatly. I really like the piano work. Give this some more polish and upload it again, I’d love to see where it goes.
 
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permalink   mmurray47 Sat, Feb 5, 2005 @ 2:02 PM
Oh man I’m sorry if the site specializes in real instruments mostly - I never saw that stated anywhere (I believed I hopped over from iCompositions). For what it’s worth, the piece did take about four months (off and on work). Future Boy (or what ever) certainly has a right to express his opinion - luckily eveyone’s will vary. Thanks Victor and fgr for the contstructive help - I will look into those sound fonts. Bottom line this is fun and educational for me. I’m a composer - not a musician admitedly.
Peaboy O'Titis
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permalink   Sat, Feb 5, 2005 @ 2:32 PM
I’m a composer, not a musician? What the heck does that mean?

Anyway, I think it’s a pretty good mix. Agreed on most of the points stated so far, the sax is awful and distracting. The keyboard work is solid. A neat idea.

I’m still trying to figure out how a composer can get by without being a musician. Maybe you mean you’re a composer, not an instrumentalist? That makes a lot more sense…
 
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permalink   fourstones Sat, Feb 5, 2005 @ 2:46 PM
Quote: Oh man I’m sorry if the site specializes in real instruments mostly - I never saw that stated anywhere .

It’s not stated anywhere, and I don’t want my statement to be cofused with official site "policy’ — I should have said many participants (especially the remixers) deal mainly in sampled instrument sounds, not synthesized ones, therefore you can expect negative comments when they detect you are using the latter.

The site specializes in allowing musicians (composers, instrumentalists, djs, producers, whatever) to express themselves musically in any way that pleases them in a creative, communal, legal setting.
 
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permalink   mmurray47 Sat, Feb 5, 2005 @ 2:54 PM
PeaboyOtitis: I consider a musician as somebody who can play an entire music score from start to finish because they are accompliched on a particular instrument (or instruments). I can’t do that (currently) so I couldn’t do a live gig for instance. But I can piece together a song. Am I missing something here? Ah I am - "I’m not an instrumentalist…" OK - I’m learning - I’m learning. Thanks. (smile).
The Orchestral Movement of 1932
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permalink   Sat, Feb 5, 2005 @ 5:45 PM
I enjoyed this. I don’t particularly care much for jazz but I got into this.

The synth did seem out of place. Not - in my opinion - because it was a synth but because it didn’t really fit in with the rest of the song.

But, very good indeed.
 
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permalink   mmurray47 Sun, Feb 6, 2005 @ 6:50 AM
Thanks for the feedback - I’m relatively new to music making. Can you please help me understand what people are saying when they say "the synth" or "the synths"? Does this mean I would be better off using "real samples" of some sort - like sound fonts which were mentioned earlier? Are the "synths" I used that discernable from non "synths" (aside from the sax which I know isn’t what it could be but it’s all I have). Any advice is appreciated. Thanks again.
 
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permalink   The Orchestral Movement of 1932 Sun, Feb 6, 2005 @ 3:02 PM
Quote: Can you please help me understand what people are saying when they say "the synth" or "the synths"?

A synth is a - and I use this term lightly- fake sound, usually generated by a synthesizer or such. These samples often stand out when you’re mixing them. So if you’re focus is to make something ‘realistic sounding,’ you can either avoid them or find a way of mixing them into your song so they form a cohesive union with the rest of the music.
You don’t necessarily have to use real instrument samples. Try experimenting with different soundfonts or samples to get a better sound.
 
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permalink   mmurray47 Mon, Feb 7, 2005 @ 1:39 AM
Thanks but can you be more specific? Whats interesting is the fact that I have played this music to quite a few people on my car stereo system and they all think it sounds great. I have pointed out the difference of my sax and a real Sax (which would agree to Your point) but which other instruments to you Sound "fake"? What tools do you use?
ASHWAN
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permalink   Mon, Feb 7, 2005 @ 9:28 AM
I JUST DIDN’T WANT TO MISS OUT….THIS IS ALOT OF CHAT….I WISH I HAD THIS MUCH INTEREST IN SOMETHING!
OK, FROM ME, PERSONALLY I HATE IT, BUT I THINK ELEMENTS IN IT ARE VERY STRONG. THE SAX ISN’T THE WORST THING ABOUT IT FOR ME, ACTUALLY, DOESN’T BOTHER ME TOO MUCH…SOME OF THE PADS COME UP WAY TOO HIGH IN THE MIX AND PERSONALLY I LIKE THE DRUMS TO BE MORE PROMINENT…I HOPE THIS DOESN’T SOUND PATRONISING, BECAUSE I AINT ALL THAT, BUT KEEP GOING…I THINK YOU’RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
 
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permalink   The Orchestral Movement of 1932 Mon, Feb 7, 2005 @ 9:32 AM
Quote: I have pointed out the difference of my sax and a real Sax (which would agree to Your point) but which other instruments to you Sound "fake"? What tools do you use?

An example of an instrument that sounds synthetic is the (I think) bass sound that comes in at around the 12 second mark. There are some other atmospheric samples that sound fake.
I use some common tools. Fruity Loops, Audacity, blah blah… but the tools don’t matter much if the sound doesn’t come out as desired. Experiment. Play with your sounds.
 
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permalink   fourstones Mon, Feb 7, 2005 @ 9:49 AM
Quote: Experiment. Play with your sounds.

That’s about the size of it. You’re not going to get the answers you’re looking for on a forum in text discussions.

If you’re happy with your sounds then feel free to ignore everything else (obviously).

If not, then Google ‘soundfont’ and start downloading, Experiment with open ears. You have very good arranging skills and your melodic ideas have potential. The rest won’t make sense until you *hear* it for yourself.
 
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permalink   mmurray47 Mon, Feb 7, 2005 @ 10:17 AM
JacksonTorreal, Victor others thanks for your great feedback and good luck to you. I can take the criticism but some of the people here are pretty rude - must be intimidated. ;-). Thanks again - I won’t take up anyone else’s time here with this…
 
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permalink   indieish.com Thu, Feb 10, 2005 @ 11:23 AM
Quote: I won’t take up anyone else’s time here with this…


Well, you obviously created something that stirred people to respond. Art evokes a response, plain and simple.

I’m making an exception for this weeks ccmixter countdown show (Normally, songs rated below 4.0 don’t make the cut.) and this will be first up.

You can find the archive of the show at the link in my sig below. It’s live on Thursday at 6 EST, the podcast will be released sometime this evening.
 
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permalink   mmurray47 Thu, Feb 10, 2005 @ 5:26 PM
Thank you VERY much for "bending the rules" a bit. It was InSpaRing! - Mike Murray
Future Boy
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permalink   Sat, Feb 5, 2005 @ 12:07 PM
This might be cool if smooth jazz was cool. Also, it’s kind of sloppy. The saxophone is terrifying. I can’t even finish listening to this. Congratulations, you are my first 1.
fourstones
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permalink   Sat, Feb 5, 2005 @ 12:16 PM
Well, it’s certainly better than all that… and I think I actually understand the genre.

I think the piano playing is obviously great but yes, it sounds like you’re relying on a single synthesizer for most of your sounds and on a site that specializing in samples of real instruments, it does kind of stand out.

If you’re not familiiar with the technology there are some pretty amazing free woodwind/sax soundfonts and free MIDI-triggered soundfont players that sound a bit better than what you’re using.

At times you get a great "jamming with the original" artist feel and I, personally, would have really liked to hear more along those lines.
Budapest BluesBoy
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permalink   Wed, Apr 27, 2005 @ 4:24 PM
I Like this. Good from some netradio at middle of da nite during I try 2 malke something with my life. But this is not jazz. But f***n good MUZAK. And it’s enough 4 me at this moment…