Sorry to hear that you seem upset about something. I don’t now what exactly it was you were trying to optimalize.

I have to admit I don’t find it that easy to understand exactly what your concerns are between the various quotes of song lyrics, people’s names and maybe other things you have mentioned. So I’m guessing a little what exactly you are trying to communicate, and please forgive me if I haven’t understood all of your concerns correctly.

I can say from experience with many computer systems and web sites that ccMixter is one of the most open and transparent communities I’ve ever encountered. For example it’s pretty easy to figure out from the forums, who the admins are. And it’s also pretty easy to figure out, who has the ability to give editor’s picks. And some months ago there was a rather lengthy thread in the forums where several of the editors explained how they individually approached editor’s picks. So no secrets there.

The one thing that’s different here from some other open and transparent places I know is, that we keep public conversations - including disagreements - civilized and polite. And most often we try not to make a lengthy post all uppercase, unless it is really meant as a joke. Because on the Internet all uppercase looks a lot like impolite shouting.

Technically speaking ccMixter is also incredibly open with a very rich API, so if one takes the time to understand it, one can indeed dig around ccMixter in many different ways.

However, it’s also important to make sure, one doesn’t overload the server or try to get around site security, because that doesn’t only make it possibly more expensive to operate ccMixter, but it can also make the site slow for everyone else - or possibly even break it. So, while things are in the open, one also needs to be a careful not to kill the fun for everyone else.

As to what kind of copyright regime is allowed here, that is very much set by the organization, which sponsors (pays for) and owns ccMixter: the Creative Commons organization.

So in reality, there is nothing independent or self-upgradable about ccMixter. Individually we are independent, but the site ccMixter is not and while we participate we agree to do so within the parameters set by the site owners. The Creative Commons organization pays to make ccMixter possible. And they have engaged fourstones to manage ccMixter. And then there are a few people who volunteer (in some cases significant) amounts of their time to help out around some areas of ccMixter. (as a side note: As far as I’m concerned, I think everyone who leaves a thoughtful review can also be considered a volunteer!)

ccMixter exists because a real organization with real people had a pretty cool idea about shared culture being built with voluntary contributions from artists. There are plenty of other places on the web, where involuntary “contributions” from artists are being shared, so ccMixter isn’t needed for that and anyone can find such other places pretty easily, if that’s what they are looking for.

ccMixter is not for everyone - it can’t be and it doesn’t try to be. By now there are quite a few other remixing sites. Some more “corporate” and some more “revolutionary”. I used to remix at another site, and it ended up being a mismatch for what I wanted in a remix site. So I left that other site and found one more to my liking. We can all do that at any time.

Finally, one of the incredibly cool things about ccMixter is, that the software that runs it (ccHost) is available as free and open source software, so anyone could start something similar to ccMixter but more to their liking and with another person managing it — … if someone really wanted to. :-)

If this thread is ultimately deleted I hope this reply will find another home. While I thought the post replied to here did not warrant a substantive reply, the care, consideration, civility and utter completeness of this one is a shining example of what this site is about, and a damn good explanation of it too :-).

Well said.

This kind of posting is exactly why we don’t explicitly publish the current list of editors, admin and moderators. People want to call me names for doing my job the best I know how? Whatever. But we’ve already had cases where some volunteer admins have been stalked online and I’ll do whatever I can to protect them from that.

Rendben Uram.
Legyen.

Um, well… all I have to contribute is:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Is my point made yet?