The Ad Man’s tutorial didn’t motivate me to think about what anybody would notice listening to a producers unadulterated audio product. It got me thinking about what happens to audio processed and reprocessed after the ccMixter is done. Examples, media players and web site audio streaming processes seem to yield uneven and unexpected results.

Don’t recall loudness being well addressed in the Ad Man’s db spiel. Sounded like the Ad Man has a separate tutorial on loudness promoting Izotope’s Insight 2 product.

We use that loudness monitoring product (free with Ozone) and seek to keep moderate energy audio around Integrated -14 LUFS range with loud sections about -10 to -7 LUFS.

Aaron Mullan has a friendly one page loudness metering primer called “A Practical Guide to Loudness Metering for the Recording Studio” in Tape Op #131 magazine, June-Jule 2019.

We are set it and forget it guys. We mixed down at -0.3 db for decades and a -1.0 db regime seem to keep us in a better place considering ubiquitous post production processing and reprocessing of one’s rendered audio products.

The assisted mix capability introduced into Izotope Ozone defaults to -1.0 db output. We happy with that thus far.

Ultimately, we are old analog band guys. We still listen to final mixes using an external db meter. ‘;0)

Being a very old barroom band guy who played on stages for over 50 years, my ears are shot. Visual loudness monitoring is my new friend.

Gosh Darn the Pusherman! Great song.

Are the loudness wars really over? ‘;0)

we were just expressing an “opinion” sir
thank you for your prompt respose
and relevant points

media players and web site audio streaming processes directly yield uneven and unexpected results.this is a developers “hell on earth”scenario.

theres nothing to say about digital sir
its “always” developing ‘artifacts”

analogue has its drawbacks
but theres nothing in a tape machine manual
about “accidently creating a square wave when you press record”


over hear were still ‘vu’ I havent “adapted to lufs”
reaper is peak/average - which i dont find usful because meters are ‘weighed’ so you “have to “adapt to them”


loudness wars

iz listening to http://ccmixter.org/files/T...
its clear as day and my headphones are at 10%

usual y-tub listening is at 45%

thank you for your consideration we are greatly valuing your experience and artistic body of work. I have had EXCELLENT results with drum tracks and other goodies you have provided

“There’s nothing in a tape machine manual about accidentally creating a square wave when you press record” is great line, BeatMachine.

Will try to use it.

Thanks

its a pleasure, sir
i do appreciate you
im doing sum post/modern blues
may i have sum more drum tracks plz