Me too! : )

Thanks man!

oops…forehead slap..lol
OK, I removed the vocal track and uploaded an instrumental mix.

So now it has become a remix challenge. Who can write some clever new lyrics?!

I had a forehead slap once too. With Somewhere Over The Rainbow. But - isn’t the music also a no-no?

No, I did a bunch of research on this years ago. You can copy..as in perform original music based on existing work, but if you copy…as in literally copy…as in sample, even half a second of copyrighted material you have infringed. It basically comes down to not being able to copyright a melody. That’s how karaoke companies get away with it. You have to change the name too. Not saying its really fair or I agree with it. I hear music in commercials sometimes where it’s clear to me that someone got paid a little bit of money to ‘copy’ another song…just because they didn’t want to pay to use the original. They should just pay the money IMO.

“You can copy..as in perform original music based on existing work…”
“…not…able to copyright a melody”

So covers are not copyright infringement? Like Coltrane’s version for example? He, or his record company, didn’t have to pay for that? That’s interesting. And a little confusing. And, if correct, it opens up a whole new slew of possibilities I didn’t realize were legit. Thanks for the info.

I’m still no entertainment lawyer. And lawyers are good at finding loopholes. The one here is that Coltrain used the same title which acknowledges the use of copyrighted material. … the “intent” to infringe. I guess if he called it “Coltrain’s favorite things” they may not have had to pay… Even though that still shows intent to infringe, it isnt exact…even more confusing, right? But is it morally right… Is it just lame? The karaoke companies that use the same names DO have to pay royalties BTW, I was referring to some that don’t and they get away with it by changing the name. Patent and copyright law is tricky and annoying specially when it comes to software, genetics, biology, medicine, etc.


“Copyright protects only original works that are “fixed to a tangible medium.”

Actually, it’s chord progressions and not melody that you can’t copyright. New “arrangements” do have the same melodies but different chord progressions so its not clear if it infringes or not. If someone copyrighted a simple melody and someone else copied it note for note that is a clear infringement. This stuff is definitely tricky. Jazz is even trickier because the melodies are changed during improvisation… so you recognize it but it isn’t exactly the same. There’s even software that will eventually be able to play something “like” Hendrix, or the Beatles. It’ll be interesting to see if they will try to litigate when that happens. Apple is working on a patent where you can send a text and listen to it in somebody’s voice. Stuff is getting weird …lol

“This stuff is definitely tricky. Jazz is even trickier”

Yeah I’m just downloading everything you’ve got here. I really like it. And you’ve got so much great improvisation going on I’m pretty sure one (me?) could remix it in such a way as to have very little or no similarity to the original.

By the way - is that Dave Brubeck on piano? ;)

Lol…me playing “like Dave Brubeck”. I think that one song “Take 5” changed almost everything I play. Same thing happened after I heard Bob Marley for the first time.

Quote: JerisLol…me playing “like Dave Brubeck”. I think that one song “Take 5” changed almost everything I play. Same thing happened after I heard Bob Marley for the first time.

Hey Speck, I decided to remove the arrangement but keep the samples uploaded.

Quote: SpeckGreat song and a wonderful rendition. But - isn’t it copyrighted? I wondered about that too…thanks for clarifying.

Thanks, Emily! I didn’t write those lyrics. I found them online. Couldn’t find a copyright for them though. I did find some reference to Julie Andrews writing and performing it but I think that’s been disproven.

what’s the bpm? :)

Well.. The computer says 170 at 6/8 and there’s an mpc 50% swing groove template on it…still seems way off.

i’m about 80% done without even using the grid. that’s a first! ;)

COOL..yeah sorry I kinda played this really loose so it doesn’t exactly fit in the grid.

I have an idea for some lyrics too. If I can pull it off it’ll be fun

Can’t wait to hear what you’ve done with it : )

It’s a pretty different song…..to be warned! I’ve been listening to your playing nonstop for days! You are so talented. I hope to be done in a day or two :)

Aw, thanks. That’s probably a good thing to really mash it up.

do you ever get “pre-mature-upload-syndrome”? i know it needs another day of work, but i’m still fighting the desire to upload now. hahah.

Haha…yeah that’s why I used to never sleep.
Do it!! I wanna hear it!

It needs mastering. But I could upload now and replace tomorrow I suppose ;)

eeeeekkkks!!

ok, uploading now. warning, the levels could be all over the place. i’ve been singing all day so my ears are shot :) i’ve been having loads of fun with your stems!

You sound great and you did such a great job arranging the stems…heard a bunch of stuff I didn’t hear before. Really tasteful!!

For the integrity of ccMixter I decided to remove the arrangement. I don’t want to open a can of worms here. : )

thanks Jeris. i’ve been researching behind the scenes and was about to ask you to do that. i made certain in my remix that i excluded any melody in question ;) thanks for taking care of this ;)

Oh, you should remove any samples that contain that specific melody — or repost them with any MFT melody cut out……

Hey Emily, yeah looks like the second piano part and the tenor sax had the melody so I took those out.

Thanks, Dice!!

Thanks man, you got me thinking more about this and I’m removing the arrangement. I guess I should take down the tenor sax sample too. I really think I should take the whole thing down, but there’s remixes that are associated that I think are fine.