I’ve asked a few mixers out there about how they go about dealing with drums. I’m sure it’d help if I was a drummer, but I’m curious about the programming and software aspects. I have Reason 4 and Battery, though Battery is more of a host for samples. I also have FL7 and have done some beat programming with that and Reason, though not much yet.
Several of the mixes I’ve heard which have great sounding drum lines make me wonder how much looping versus/including straight bar programming is going on. Some make me think the entire stretch has been programmed and for seasoned producers who can do this with greater efficiency and speed, I feel not jealous, but a bit of wonderment. I get stuck when working with these aspects of songwriting and haven’t really explored them too much. I’ve set down several patterns in Reason, but am still on the learning curve there.

The two programs I’ve noticed specifically mentioned otherwise are BFD and Groove Agent, which spinmeister used on Unforgiven. Do these tools make setting up drum sequences and tracks smoother, easier or quicker than step programming? Is there something I am missing? Or is this just an issue of spending that much time on that aspect of production? This is not a plea to get out of investing time, just wondering if focusing in certain areas will provide what I’m looking for without pushing through the learning curves of several systems before finding one that works decently?

For example, say I want to program a pretty basic medium jazz kit, I’ve got all the samples I’d need to do this, and loops and what not, but the programming sticks me. I’m looking for opinions on Reason and Fruity for these purposes and whether I need to look into something else for this matter. I’d rather not get stuck on this and have it be the wall between my songwriting/remixing and nothing.
Also, I’d like to know how many people use Rex loops or whatnot for predominent portions of their remixing and whether it makes much of a difference. I do have access to Ableton Live 6, but haven’t messed with it. I currently primarily use Cubase SX2 for mixing. Help, please,

shimoda

I bought Stylus RMX a few years ago and was totally unimpressed - but now, all of sudden I’m using it all over the place.

I end up using Groove Agent about 10% of the time and Stylus RMX 90% of the time, but I really like having both :-)

I use a combination of RMX, Acid and Reason, both the the drum machine and the Rex player..also two specially “tuned” Foster Bitter Ale cans (lots of fun getting these, looking forward to having a full set), two paint buckets..a clay drum..and my $200 xio 25 synth/controller for the whole mess.

ummm, not to get OT..but….one of the side benefits (after reading Vic’s rmx review from 1976, gebus, I have to hang out here more often)of RMX and the Chaos thing is putting in saxophone and or/bass lines..I did this for a long time with the Rex player in Reason as well..and have a lot of new good things to compose with… then chop up in Sf and/or Acid.

The only thing I don’t like so much about RMX are the “RMX” sounds..the fahnking thing is so popular with crap music providers for film and teewee that you hear the “rmx” sound all over the place…last time I was in NewYawkNewYawk, there were quite a few wicked jokes about this..anyway, the best way to defeat that thang is to rex your own loops (like from the sample and loop collections here at the Mighty ccMixter, grasshopper) and start from there… then it becomes a really good processing tool..which is what it should be anyway.