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Unrested-Kayak Version
by gurdonark
Recommends (9)
Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 8:05 AM

Samples are used in:

 
shockshadow
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permalink   Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 2:53 PM
very rich pad in the background…goes well with the water and birds. i would have liked a bit of delay on melissa’s poetry to kind of pan it out and make it a bit more interesting. but that’s just me…
:)
 
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permalink   gurdonark Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 5:16 PM
Yes, I played with cut-up and delay, and didn’t get anywhere, but that’s not to say I couldn’t get anywhere, only that I didn’t.
fourstones
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permalink   Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 4:30 PM
The name of your mp3 is:

gurdonark_-_Unrested—Kayak_Version_(featuring_Music_by_Shagrugge_Poem_by_MelissaK_and_Rowing_by_Gurdonark).mp3

perhaps you find the ccmixter attribution ‘Uses sample from’ system is inadequate and using the song title field for attribution and song description is your passive aggressive way of telling me?
 
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permalink   gurdonark Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 4:51 PM
Hi Victor:

I am disappointed if I gave that impression, because that was not what I was trying to do. I have become convinced that ccmixter attribution system works fine.

I notice that when my work gets podcast outside of ccmixter, then the mp3 on the podcast does not show the artists involved. I thus tend to name songs and mp3s so that key contributors are noted on the mp3.

In ccmixter, this is unnecesary, because the ccmixter attribution system is sufficient. This one, though, I hoped also to post to DiSfish, and it’s easier for me to do attribution if I have put it in the mp3 title. I did not create one mp3 for mixter and another for somewhere else, which differ only in their title.

I did not mean to give offense,
and I try, where possible, to
be direct rather than passive-aggressive in communication.

So, rather than the problem being that I find the “uses samples from” system inadequate (I find it quite adequate in mixter), I was trying to name the mp3 to solve a different issue.

The song title here has an element of humour in it, but that’s beside the point.

My main point, though, is that this is not a passive-aggressive attack on mixter. I like mixter a lot. I’m happy to name mp3s more simply if this will make your job easier.

Bob





Quote: fourstonesThe name of your mp3 is:

gurdonark_-_Unrested—Kayak_Version_(featuring_Music_by_Shagrugge_Poem_by_MelissaK_and_Rowing_by_Gurdonark).mp3

perhaps you find the ccmixter attribution ‘Uses sample from’ system is inadequate and using the song title field for attribution and song description is your passive aggressive way of telling me?
 
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permalink   fourstones Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 5:10 PM
(btw, ‘reply w/quote’ is there to be used when you have a specific portion of the message you wish to quote and reply to — it is assumed that you are replying to the whole message when you, well, reply to the whole message, so the quoted text just confuses readers, especially when the entire quoted messages is at the bottom of the reply.)

Quote: if this will make your job easier.

It’s not a matter of making my job easier, I don’t have any extra work per character in the name, however you should consider what you’re doing to folks who download and link to your songs; like name pollution in their folders, file open dialog boxes, browser address bars, mp3 players, playlists, email links, and yes, including podcasters who want to link to the song in their feeds. You are making their lives quite unnecessarily difficult.

fwiw attribution in podcasts is the job of the podcaster and while it’s a nice gesture for you to want to give credit to everybody you sampled in every song in every context it’s ever used in, it is not required by the podcaster to do so and does become a bit of a pita when someone tries to overload the song’s name for attribution and descriptions.

I’m all for hacks, but the consequences should be understood.

Hope that helps,
VS
 
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permalink   gurdonark Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 5:15 PM
That does help me understand your way of looking at it.

I’ll change the way I do things.
 
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permalink   shagrugge Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 4:46 PM
Gurdonark wins the awards in the categories ‘longest file name’ and ‘longest song title’ in the first annual ccmixter awards.

Other nominees were

Teru

JLang

and decal

Thanks for all those who entered ;)
 
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permalink   gurdonark Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 5:02 PM
You guys are persuading me.

Maybe my next song will be a monosyllable!



Quote: shagruggeGurdonark wins the awards in the categories ‘longest file name’ and ‘longest song title’ in the first annual ccmixter awards.

Other nominees were

Teru

JLang

and decal

Thanks for all those who entered ;)
 
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permalink   shagrugge Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 6:03 PM
I was just j0king…and I’m not quite as worried about name pollution as I am say about water or air pollution. Name pollution ranks rather low on my list of bad pollutions.
 
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permalink   shockshadow Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 7:21 PM
lol…y’all crack me up.
:)
 
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permalink   gurdonark Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 7:24 PM
:). ah, internet communication.



Quote: shockshadowlol…y’all crack me up.
:)
lo tag blanco
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permalink   Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 6:39 PM
but getting back to the song…

nice!
 
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permalink   gurdonark Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 7:25 PM
thanks! I loved shagrugge’s sample, and knew I could slow it into something fun, and then I had this cool sample from my vacation…
 
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permalink   Analog By Nature Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 6:53 PM
you bet, good track, manitoba eh??
my home land!!
 
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permalink   gurdonark Wed, Jun 14, 2006 @ 7:27 PM
What a great province! We loved it.

I made this youtube of manitoba images:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Quote: cdkyou bet, good track, manitoba eh??
my home land!!
 
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permalink   Analog By Nature Thu, Jun 15, 2006 @ 11:24 AM
great video, manitoba has so much beauty to look at, newt time you are around check out clear lake..
and if you really have some time come way up north to leaf rapids, where i grew up, it’s a ghost town now, but there is so much great scenery, lakes, the churchill river, forest walks and trails, and rock gardens, great little community..
http://www.townofleafrapids...
orbit_over_luna
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permalink   Thu, Jun 15, 2006 @ 8:08 AM
Really, really beautiful. Your field recordings are nice and clear. Great mix too. I actually like the vocals where they are…almost as if it were a thought veiled just beneath the surface of nature.
 
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permalink   gurdonark Mon, Jun 19, 2006 @ 11:40 AM
Thank you very much.