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Kaneda loops life sounds
by Kaneda
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Tue, Jul 19, 2005 @ 11:47 AM

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victor
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permalink   Tue, Jul 19, 2005 @ 5:07 PM
I like your music a lot, but I’m not seeing these a being hugely useful to a remixer — sorry.
 
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permalink   Kaneda Wed, Jul 20, 2005 @ 5:15 AM
Just try… lol
Everything is useful in music. You can listen to Matthew Herbert’s Radioboy album there :
http://www.themechanicsofde...
Download is free.
He uses lots of sounds like those I’ve made.
 
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permalink   victor Wed, Jul 20, 2005 @ 5:24 AM
ok, let me qualify that — I don’t see them hugely useful to remixers on this site — other sites, I can’t speak for (heck, I can barely speak for this one) — it’s almost as if you didn’t listen to the type of music people like here.

I’m just saying this upload doesn’t make a lot of sense TO ME for this site. I’m sure there are plenty of sites all around the web that would flip out at the chance to host this kind of thing and that’s great — but I don’t see it fitting here. Sorry.
 
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permalink   Kaneda Wed, Jul 20, 2005 @ 5:44 AM
What I love in CCmixter is the great variety of styles of music that we can find… So I think that everything, every style is useful here. We don’t know how a sound could be transformed into a remix. Surprise in music is her best part…
 
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permalink   victor Wed, Jul 20, 2005 @ 5:54 AM
hey, thanks for the lesson in how music and this site works, I’ve learned something.

I guess you never know when some one will just reach out from the Internet and make you see things in a way you hadn’t thought of before.

Know what I mean?
 
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permalink   Kaneda Wed, Jul 20, 2005 @ 6:04 AM
Sorry. That was not a lesson.
So we agree about music…
This is just a question about subjectivity.
 
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permalink   victor Wed, Jul 20, 2005 @ 6:17 AM
no.

it’s a question about being appropriate.

This is the last entry I will make in this thread because I think it’s the third time I’ve tried to say this:

there are tons of great sites out there would love to have a zip full of random, clipped noise from an open mic.

personally I don’t see Mixter that way.

When I listen to what people rate high and the editorial picks I don’t see anything there would inspire this kind of upload HERE.

Peace,
Victor
 
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permalink   Kaneda Wed, Jul 20, 2005 @ 6:35 AM
This is your opinion…
Have a good day.
gurdonark
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permalink   Sun, Aug 7, 2005 @ 6:37 AM
My tastes differ markedly from most of those on this board. I tend to be less driven by beats, loops, dancetracks, and other of the various genres which tend to dominate this board. Nonetheless, I like and respect the people on this board who mix, because (a) I am a total novice at mixing; and (b) I like many kinds of music, and appreciate the insights I gain from this board, even if the genres are different than my favorites. The board folks here do good works in their own ways. . These differences are of little moment, as I merely submit my works to different internet radio stations than they might submit their work, and that’s fine.

My music is purely a hobby, but with my self-created material (as opposed to mixing), I have a lot of fun and sometimes get it played. If the "charts" I make tend to be soundclick noise charts rather than hip hop charts someplace else, then that’s not only all right with me, it’s preferable. I also don’t mind, though, if people here critique from the vantage point of their own vision of this board, even if the vision sometimes seems unusually different from mine. It’s just part of the process. If I were a more accomplished mixer, and technical flaw were not part of my process, I might assess it slightly differently, but not much differently.

So when I read this exchange,apart from being disappointed by the tone, I wondered if your sounds might be right for me. After all, I am one of the people who has a different approach on this board—we are not legion, but we exist. I like taking "found sounds", uploading them into a synthesizer, and then making them into music. This is not to everyone’s taste—but it is to mine and my friends’, and that’s okay.

You uploaded some interesting sounds, but my dilemma here is how to make effective use of them. For example, I like expo 3, but the meat of the sound is so soft within its entire track, that it will be hard for me to do much with it.
Expo 2 similarly is an interesting sound, but it’s not broad enough to do much with it. Throughout the other ones, I hear little nice glitches, dissonances, whirs and spins.
But the problem for me is that they will be hard to
bring up into a mix. I don’t mind that there are "recording noise" backings, so much, as part of the notion is that one can use the sound of recording as part of the experience of the recorded work resulting.

But here, the little vignettes of sound are a bit slighter than I might consider ideal. So I say that while I completely agree with you that music is very broad,
and I also agree that sites should be very open to allowing experimentation and play, I must say that it will be harder to use these than, say, a loop of an a capella vocal track or a loop of a 30 second synth line. That’s not to say it can’t be done—and I’m going to give it a try in a few days—but I thought I’d write to say "thanks for uploading", but also to point out that within your intention of uploading life sounds and found sounds, you might help make more mix-a-ble material if you uploaded broader snippets of more vivid sounds. I like using found sound very much. But I have to have enough body to the sound to make it workable.

So while I don’t quite come from the same place that Victor starts from, I must say that he’s got a point that it will be harder to use these than a broader, more robust set of "found sound" might be.

Still, though I’m more a kitchen table found sound guy than a true mixer l’ll see what I can do with your sounds, and post the result in a few days.



 
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permalink   gurdonark Sun, Aug 7, 2005 @ 6:37 AM
My tastes differ markedly from most of those on this board. I tend to be less driven by beats, loops, dancetracks, and other of the various genres which tend to dominate this board. Nonetheless, I like and respect the people on this board who mix, because (a) I am a total novice at mixing; and (b) I like many kinds of music, and appreciate the insights I gain from this board, even if the genres are different than my favorites. The board folks here do good works in their own ways. . These differences are of little moment, as I merely submit my works to different internet radio stations than they might submit their work, and that’s fine.

My music is purely a hobby, but with my self-created material (as opposed to mixing), I have a lot of fun and sometimes get it played. If the "charts" I make tend to be soundclick noise charts rather than hip hop charts someplace else, then that’s not only all right with me, it’s preferable. I also don’t mind, though, if people here critique from the vantage point of their own vision of this board, even if the vision sometimes seems unusually different from mine. It’s just part of the process. If I were a more accomplished mixer, and technical flaw were not part of my process, I might assess it slightly differently, but not much differently.

So when I read this exchange,apart from being disappointed by the tone, I wondered if your sounds might be right for me. After all, I am one of the people who has a different approach on this board—we are not legion, but we exist. I like taking "found sounds", uploading them into a synthesizer, and then making them into music. This is not to everyone’s taste—but it is to mine and my friends’, and that’s okay.

You uploaded some interesting sounds, but my dilemma here is how to make effective use of them. For example, I like expo 3, but the meat of the sound is so soft within its entire track, that it will be hard for me to do much with it.
Expo 2 similarly is an interesting sound, but it’s not broad enough to do much with it. Throughout the other ones, I hear little nice glitches, dissonances, whirs and spins.
But the problem for me is that they will be hard to
bring up into a mix. I don’t mind that there are "recording noise" backings, so much, as part of the notion is that one can use the sound of recording as part of the experience of the recorded work resulting.

But here, the little vignettes of sound are a bit slighter than I might consider ideal. So I say that while I completely agree with you that music is very broad,
and I also agree that sites should be very open to allowing experimentation and play, I must say that it will be harder to use these than, say, a loop of an a capella vocal track or a loop of a 30 second synth line. That’s not to say it can’t be done—and I’m going to give it a try in a few days—but I thought I’d write to say "thanks for uploading", but also to point out that within your intention of uploading life sounds and found sounds, you might help make more mix-a-ble material if you uploaded broader snippets of more vivid sounds. I like using found sound very much. But I have to have enough body to the sound to make it workable.

So while I don’t quite come from the same place that Victor starts from, I must say that he’s got a point that it will be harder to use these than a broader, more robust set of "found sound" might be.

Still, though I’m more a kitchen table found sound guy than a true mixer l’ll see what I can do with your sounds, and post the result in a few days.



 
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permalink   Kaneda Mon, Aug 8, 2005 @ 7:20 AM
Really impatient to hear your tracks…! Have a good mix ! ;-))
 
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permalink   gurdonark Thu, Aug 11, 2005 @ 8:17 AM
I had fun mixing with your work. I tried to figure out what to do with "life sounds". I ultimately decided to turn its recording "flaws" into "virtues". I’ve posted the result
as a bit of shortwave radio fun.

conradscmost
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permalink   Sun, Sep 24, 2006 @ 2:48 PM
nice sound a like very much will sertainly make a good background sound