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Reviews for "stf vs Lisa DeBenedictis - girl and supergirl (new start remix)"

fourstones
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permalink   Tue, Nov 29, 2005 @ 11:32 AM
The vocals are in a completely different key than the backing tracks. The instruments are mixed poorly (e.g. the bass overwhelms the drums instead of supporting the mix). The plucky-synth loops is just repeating to no real end (other than silly annoyance).

The snare/hi-hat interaction is kind of cool.

You might want to give this one another go and replace this one.
 
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permalink   stf Fri, Jan 13, 2006 @ 6:05 PM
oops… thx for the constructive criticism, might give it another go eventually… sorry
gurdonark
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permalink   Sat, Jan 14, 2006 @ 10:01 AM
Quote: oops… thx for the constructive criticism, might give it another go eventually… sorry

Welcome to the Board.

This one will benefit from a little restructuring and alteration, but I think it’s good to stretch and try.

I think that Victor’s criticism is very constructive, but I also think you should take to heart that it’s fun to hear people try different things, and we’ll look forward to your next one.
 
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permalink   fourstones Sat, Jan 14, 2006 @ 1:46 PM
Quote: oops… thx for the constructive criticism, might give it another go eventually… sorry

sorry for being short but I was reviewing many, many uploads the day I posted this.

Feel free to ‘unpublish’ the new version and contact me privately for feedback and/or solicit specific help.

Quote: it’s fun to hear people try different things

it’s one thing to twiddle some plug in knobs and upload with a “what do you think?” kind of attitude but the serious podcasters, directors, A&R folk and just casual listeners on this site expect something else when they hit the ‘stream this page’ button.

The source code to ccMixter is available as open source and easy to install on a server. Several folks have done so, in each case specializing in a certain kind of media with different bents and goals. We encourage and support as best as we can these installations. If someone out there wants to set up a site that is devoted to cerebral audio process experimentation I’d be the first to sign up because I love to play around with that kind of stuff.

Meanwhile, no one installation, ccMixter included, can be all things to all people and was specifically enabled to push CC music as far and wide as possible. Personally I think this is possible without artistic compromise but it, in fact, implies a certain level of conformity — like having the backing tracks to a pop vocal be in the same or compatible key as the vocals and a certain level of attention to thing like mix levels.

No matter what, I don’t want to discourage new and experimental artists; just the opposite, I want them to do the best, most honest art they can muster. Having said that it’s obvious to me when someone just plain mis-heard the key or didn’t pay close enough attention to mix levels.

VS
 
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permalink   gurdonark Sat, Jan 14, 2006 @ 6:38 PM
Quote: Quote: oops… thx for the constructive criticism, might give it another go eventually… sorry

sorry for being short but I was reviewing many, many uploads the day I posted this.

Feel free to ‘unpublish’ the new version and contact me privately for feedback and/or solicit specific help.

Quote: it’s fun to hear people try different things

it’s one thing to twiddle some plug in knobs and upload with a “what do you think?” kind of attitude but the serious podcasters, directors, A&R folk and just casual listeners on this site expect something else when they hit the ‘stream this page’ button.

The source code to ccMixter is available as open source and easy to install on a server. Several folks have done so, in each case specializing in a certain kind of media with different bents and goals. We encourage and support as best as we can these installations. If someone out there wants to set up a site that is devoted to cerebral audio process experimentation I’d be the first to sign up because I love to play around with that kind of stuff.

Meanwhile, no one installation, ccMixter included, can be all things to all people and was specifically enabled to push CC music as far and wide as possible. Personally I think this is possible without artistic compromise but it, in fact, implies a certain level of conformity — like having the backing tracks to a pop vocal be in the same or compatible key as the vocals and a certain level of attention to thing like mix levels.

No matter what, I don’t want to discourage new and experimental artists; just the opposite, I want them to do the best, most honest art they can muster. Having said that it’s obvious to me when someone just plain mis-heard the key or didn’t pay close enough attention to mix levels.

VS


Your point is well-taken, and I thought your earlier criticism was accurate. I just wanted to be as upbeat as I could be. I did not mean to undercut your point, if it came off that way. I agree that the site can’t be all things to all people, and I can’t argue the point you’re making, so I’ll concede it. I apologize.
 
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permalink   fourstones Sat, Jan 14, 2006 @ 9:28 PM
none of which, btw, is to imply that my shit don’t stink
 
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permalink   gurdonark Sat, Jan 14, 2006 @ 9:34 PM
Quote: none of which, btw, is to imply that my shit don’t stink

Of course not. You’re cool.

You know, rather than set up some fancy new site to post experimental stuff, I wonder if it might be just as easy for me to set up a soundclick or archive.org site, with perhaps a link here, where people could put up remixes on the wild side without burdening this board with every one of them. There’s got to be a solution that gets that job done without having to set up ccexperimix, no matter how cool ccexperimix would be.
 
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permalink   stf Sat, Feb 25, 2006 @ 3:47 AM
first of all sorry if my statement sounded ironic, this was never my intention…
in all truth, listening to the song again, i agree with most of you criticism (notably the fact it is clearly out of tune), am honestly grateful for your input as well as flattered you both took the time to listen to my song (and comment it)…
to my shame i have to admit that this was a intended as a track in itself (perhaps a poor one) on which i just grafted the vocals as i just stumbled upon the ‘pella and immediately "had to use it somewhere".
however i have to admit i was slightly miffed by the implied lack of work on this track, i agree that it would have needed a lot more to pay justice to the quality vocals, but i did spend a lot of time on it, despite the fact that the result quite obviously doesn’t reflect this…
i didn’t just "tweak knobs and mess around with plug-ins" as you suggested (surely in good faith)… it particularly demanded quite a lot (at least according to my standards) of sequencing work to fit the lyrics around the bpm…
i apologize for the lengthy reply and probably overly defensive reaction. i hope my next inputs to the site will sound better, and would love to benefit from more of your experience/suggestions as you seem to listen to all recent posts.
 
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permalink   fourstones Sat, Feb 25, 2006 @ 6:54 PM
like I said, I’ve been known to stink up the joint; I honestly didn’t mean to single you in my later comments. You just had the unfortunate fortune to catch the lastest version of a soapbox speech I recite to myself before I drift off to sleep.