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Three for the road
by radiotimes
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Sun, Apr 20, 2008 @ 5:19 AM
 
Kaer Trouz
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permalink   Sun, Apr 20, 2008 @ 6:14 PM
I don’t know RT, this seems really disharmonious and there are some key signature issues that remain unresolved, in my mind anyway.
 
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permalink   radiotimes Sun, Apr 20, 2008 @ 7:20 PM
Well yes you are right there are conflicts and that is the intention of the piece. Its the interplay between the 3 elements which I will concede are not everyones cup of tea. The idea is based around the Kurt Weill feel!

One thing about your vocals is the way you phrase the words which I think is great and for me you are the best female vocalist on CCM. So much emotion and quality coupled with some great lyrics.

So apologies if you feel the piece does not do your voice justice but for me its another piece of musical expression
 
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permalink   Kaer Trouz Mon, Apr 21, 2008 @ 9:24 AM
well as you know, I love your work as well, and thank you for the huge compliment. I am never so worried about my own voice not being served its ‘justice’, because an a capella is just a small part of a whole piece, carrying its equal weight as well as a small, well placed snare hit. I absolutely have trouble with dissonance, and am attracted to more melodic stuff, for instance could never really understand Eric Dolphy. So my criticism here could just be my inability to listen beyond the somewhat western constructs my old synapses have seared closed.
bento box
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permalink   Sun, Apr 20, 2008 @ 8:28 PM
This is like a Robert Altman film: 3 or more conversations going on at once, each with equally important dialogue. The problem is the dialogues do not gel.

With the trumpet and harpsicord I am almost reminded of Mancini, but the two are really diametrically opposed in phrasing. Andy Summers used to do guitar solos like this, but there was always resolution. As he even pointed out himself, the exoticness will peak interest but will eventually lose your listner.

With the Kurt Weill reference, I am also reminded of a disjointed Tom Waits feel.

The production work is nice. But musically I agree with Kaer Trouz.
 
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permalink   radiotimes Sun, Apr 20, 2008 @ 10:24 PM
Thanks for stopping by to comment.

You are right in that there is a general lack of cohesion even allowing for the style and I must confess I did this as an exercise to see how the various samples would work together.

It probably needs some more work to hide the joins but for me I’ve spent enough on this for now.
oldDog
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permalink   Mon, Apr 21, 2008 @ 2:06 AM
This one doesn’t quite have the brilliant shock value of the contrasts in your Welsh rap piece, but bringing together these different musical cultures is weirdly interesting because the brain tries to make sense of what’s going and - and fails!
Makes me think of Cage more than Kurt Weill. I’m glad there are people doing strange things like this on ccM ;)
 
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permalink   radiotimes Mon, Apr 21, 2008 @ 2:59 AM
Thanks for the positive words.

Just taking the story a little further I actually downloaded the 3 samples at the same time to do different things with them but I had this sudden thought to put them up on the arrange screen and see what they sounded like together.

Before the manipulation they sounded even worse! But after I played about with them for a few minutes they started to come together more. I wasn’t going to put the mix up here but I thought it had something going for it and decided to give it some airing.
teru
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permalink   Mon, Apr 21, 2008 @ 8:54 PM
I like it. It feels like a picture with images that shouldn’t fit together put together. If that makes any sense I don’t know. Very creative.
 
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permalink   radiotimes Mon, Apr 21, 2008 @ 10:24 PM
Thanks!

Yes I understand where you’re coming from. It does seem like some badly fitting jacket but still has a little something that makes you feel warm inside.
DURDEN
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permalink   Thu, Apr 24, 2008 @ 8:10 AM
Hey radioT, everyone jumps against you? hehe. I will too :D .

I agree with kaer about the tonal quality and every trouble with the 3 pieces. I’m not a fan of asynchronized material, and I think Kaer voice has to be treated carefully, because she has many fluctuations in tone and harmonics that could sound wounding to your ears. Thats the magic of her voice, but I think you let the vox in here untreated. I appreciate what you wanted to do with this mix, but I think a little more sound quality would helped. I don’t feel the sounds lie on the same canvas independent of the mixed styles and asynchronization.
 
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permalink   radiotimes Thu, Apr 24, 2008 @ 5:23 PM
Yes they have!! But….. I got 5 people fired up to make good positive and helpful remarks and thats what I like to see. Even if you don’t like what you hear much you’ve got to give your view.

Thanks. Everything taken in a positive way. Good or bad I don’t mind. I’d rather have some response than nothing!!